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By John T. Crestwell, Jr.
May 1, 2005

I counsel troubled young men at Duval High School two days each week. In our meetings, we discuss many things—their grades, attendance and their issues at home and I also provide counsel on matters of religion if they ask.
Two weeks ago, I met with a 16 year old youngster who said that he had been having several reoccurring sexual impulses and desires, and that he had recently committed some petty crimes. He had stolen a few items from students… He said to me that he’d been feeling very guilty about it all. He had also gone to church the previous Sunday and expressed his concerns with his Pentecostal pastor who said that he should return the items right away (that was a good idea). Then he said to the young man that his lustful thoughts and criminal behavior was going to cause his soul to be tormented forever and ever in Hell. The young man said to his minister, “I thought I was saved by grace?” The preacher replied, “You are but the grace can be taken away…” I was thinking to myself, “This preacher didn’t scare the Hell OUT of him, but scared the Hell IN him. If you know what I mean… This kid looked at me, dead in my eyes, afraid, and asked, “Sir, you’re a Reverend. Am I going to Hell? Am I going to Hell?”. What was my answer? I’ll tell you in a moment…

 I’ve been pondering this idea of Hell and what it means to me today. For many the idea of eternal fire is sacred ----as in our opening meditation (“Rise up, O flame, by thy light glowing, show to us beauty, vision, and joy.”) Fire has many meanings… Fire can mean purification, birth and eternity. As Unitarian Universalists, many of our forebears were burned alive at the stake, and so fire can also represent a life sacrificed for the sake of truth. So fire has many meanings and all of them are not negative. But, the issue of eternal hellfire torments, perhaps, scares the Hell into many people. Millions still believe, I think, that fire and brimstone, fire and sulfur await the unrighteous…

I was visiting with Dr. Chris Bell Friday in the hospital. He’s doing fine… But we talked about the sermon title, FIRE AND BRIMESTONE. He said to me, “You know John, I’m glad some people believe in hell because this would be one Hell of a world if some people didn’t. I thought about what he said for a moment then I said to him, “Do people really believe in Hell Dr. or do people understand and believe in consequences?”
There are two problems with the idea of Hell. First, we must look at the issue of who is good and who is bad. Second, we have to look briefly at the development of the concept of hell and this will allow us to see if it is worth thinking about…

Looking at the first issue of who is good and who is bad, Betrand Russell, the once great English Scholar, would say that we don’t do good for goodness sake, nor do we do good to avoid Hell, rather we do virtuous deeds because they make us feel good and because the culture often times has a positive response to our good act or positive actions. And, most don’t like to do “bad” things (bad as defined by the cultural mores & folklores)—we don’t like to do bad things because we don’t like the negative response or the consequences that come from the act or from our negative actions.”

Who is good and who is bad? Who is righteous and who is unrighteous?  From a religious standpoint, the original Universalists said that all are God’s creation therefore all are good. The Holiness/ Pentecostal churches say that you must show evidence of your salvation by speaking in tongues or you won’t receive eternal life (you are not truly saved therefore you are condemned.) The Jehovah’s Witnesses say they are the one true church and God’s voice on earth right now. Choose their way, receive paradise, choose another, and you will not live forever. The Catholics say they are the “Universal Church” the original and authentic representative of God’s Kingdom on earth. Thus they imply that their way is the righteous way. I could go on and on, but for religion, good has not been measured by the good deeds done, but by the creeds recited. In this case, it is not what you do but what you believe that matters (that keeps you out of Hell)... It is faith in the religion’s system---- not your works that give you eternal life or eternal damnation, depending on which road you choose. Countless have been crucified, burned at the stake, silenced, assassinated, taken out, because they were made out to be heretics and liars when they where telling, boldly, a truth that needed to be told. They were considered by the religious system, to be a rabble-rouser, a trouble-maker, subversive, bad.

If you remember the Dark Ages in England, the Catholic Kings and Queens would kill the Protestants in their kingdom, seeing them as evil, while the Protestant Kings and Queens, when they would get power, they would do the same calling the Catholics evil. Of course you remember Martin Luther who protested against the Catholic Church in Germany. His life remained at risk as a result. Many Catholics wanted Luther burned at the stake as a heretic, they said they wanted to expedite is entrance into hell… Well, Luther over time, gains power and prestige. The Anti-Trinitarian movement is also growing, and strangely enough, Luther and later John Calvin would attempt to nullify this new movement’s growth by burning and imprisoning many early Unitarians saying, they were, yes, you guessed it, evil heretics.

So you see, the OPPRESSED become the OPPRESSOR, then the OPPRESSOR becomes the OPPRESSED in a never-ending cycle like the seasons of life.
Now, religion does agree that treating people as you wish to be treated is a universal standard, but this alone will not keep you out of Hell. One sister said to me, “John, good ‘aint good enough to save you!”  I said, “Save me from what sister?”  She looked at me, smiled and said, “You know what!”

The problem of who is good exists in the secular world as well. Many political liberals think political conservatives are bad. When you look at morals and ethics, some, like me believe ethics are situational, while others say “right is right and wrong is wrong”.
And so, who is good and who is bad? Dr. King said it well, “In the best of us there is some evil and in the worst of us there is some good.” I wrote in my book back in 2001:    “The powerful dominate, and unrighteousness seems to reign. People are falsely accused and taken advantage of. We want those who do this to pay! We want vengeance! Hell is our created vengeance. This is our attempt to make sense of wrongdoing. Yet, ‘All of us, like sheep, have gone astray; everyone to his own way.’ In this world, there is justice in some situations but for many others there is sorrow, misery and injustice. Hell helps us to say, when we think people get away with evil, ‘They’ll get theirs.’”

For me, Hell is our created vengeance and Heaven (although that is not the topic of discussion, but it relates) is our created reward. We are dualistic creatures and we do think in opposites. Opposites attract. Therefore, if there is an explanation and place for the evil in our world (HELL), then there is an explanation and place for the good in our world (HEAVEN). But for me, both are mythological representations of humanity’s lowest and highest hope.

Second, to understand the mythology, one need only to do some simple research on the origins of Hell… The word Hell comes from ancient Norse Mythology and predates Christianity. Hell means “to hide.” H.E.L. was the goddess of death and the underworld. Now, the idea of a judgment and suffering, one can argue, comes from ancient Egypt with the Egyptian Book of the dead in around 1240 BCE (before the common area).
The idea, not the word Hell, did exist in Hinduism in the 1500’s BCE, but it was not a permanent place. After death your soul went to a temporary stop, where it had to work out a few things undone in life. Buddhism, by the 500’s BCE, would pick up this concept as well. In the Hindu/Buddhist belief, this was a spiritual journey to eventual perfection, and is more in line with the idea of reincarnation not eternal damnation.  

In Judeo-Christian mythology, it wasn’t until around the 580’s BCE that we begin to see the concept or place, that would later be called Hell, emerge. The religion Zoroastrianism had its influence on the Israelites when they were under Persian rule. Zoroaster had a belief that at death the soul had to cross a bridge. If you are good the bridge widens and you go right to Heaven. If you are bad, the bridge narrows and gets heavy. Eventually, you fall off into a freezing and foul-smelling pit where you are tormented forever.

Initially, the ancient Hebrews believed in Sheol, a dark underworld where all went after death to exist as a shade of one’s self. This was the end of life. There was no eternal damnation yet. But by the 300’s BCE (before Christ), the Zoroastrian philosophy began to infiltrate the Israelite ranks; and then after Greek and Roman occupation of Jerusalem in the early centuries of the Common Era, you find new words and ideas emerging, like Hades, who was the Greek god of the underworld. Hades eventually would be turned into a place by the writers of the New Testament.  Hades was the place for dead souls. This matched very closely to the Jewish idea of Sheol.
Also, in Hebrew history, there was a Valley of Gehinnom, south of Jerusalem, where Pagan sacrifices had been made. This valley had for many years, and into the first century, been deemed unclean and overtime it became a local dumping ground for garbage and animal corpses and the like. It was a trash dump. It is said that there was always a fire burning and bad stench coming from this most wretched place. If Hades matched the Jewish idea of Sheol, Gehinnom matched the Persian or Zoroastrian idea of Hell.

You see, the Hebrew word Gehinnom became Gehenna in Latin which eventually translated to Hell (from the English Norse word) which is used today in the New Testament. You see how it all comes together?   It’s mythology at its best!  
Watch this: By the time the Gospels of Mark, Luke and Matthew then Revelation come on the scene, from the 60’s-100’s CE (I read from Luke and Revelation this morning), the Romans had thoroughly controlled the Palestine region. The Jewish peoples of that time were quite frustrated with being exploited and dominated by the Romans in the first century. They wanted revenge as all who are exploited tend to want revenge.  Their writings express their deep-seated desires for justice and vengeance! So when you hear the stories of the judgment of the good and bad and eternal damnation, what you are hearing are the stories of a frustrated people who want the Roman Empire out of their domain. You are also hearing language that comes from the Egyptian book of the dead, and language from Persian Zoroastrianism, and Jewish mythology.

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